<![CDATA[Valleywag: Dave Winer]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/valleywag.com.png <![CDATA[Valleywag: Dave Winer]]> http://valleywag.com/tag/dave winer http://valleywag.com/tag/dave winer <![CDATA[ Why did Californians ban gay marriage? ]]> I love Dave Winer's blog. He's even crazier than me, but he's pathologically unable to lie. Winer's latest post admits something most Californians would deny: The first time he learned a friend was married to another guy instead of a gal, he blurted out, "I find this shocking and it makes me a bit uncomfortable." He got over it, but he remembers that feeling. Dave, don't ever change. Remember when you found out I was working for Denton? That was hilarious. (Photo by tobiashm)

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Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:20:00 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5078567&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Karl Rove's Jedi mind tricks don't fool Dave Winer ]]> "I totally don't trust Rove when he says that McCain has gone too far," writes Berkeley blogger Dave Winer, of Dubya's former campaign mastermind. "I wouldn't take the bait and pass this on as the Obama folk are doing. There's got to be a virus in there somewhere. Some devious trap that springs later in this process." Aw shoot, now if that doesn't happen, I'll be disappointed.

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Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:20:00 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5050269&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Comcast will pop a cap on your bandwidth in October ]]> 250GB, or "125 standard definition movies," will be Internet service provider Comcast's new cap on monthly bandwidth usage for downloads, according to a release from the company — which confirms some rumors and shoots down others. Which is 200GB short of what cranky customer Dave Winer has been reported to use. Better send some cupcakes to your friendly Comcast support representatives on Twitter for overage indulgences. [DSL Reports]

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Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:00:00 PDT Jackson West http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5043360&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Hot startup to squirm away from old man's caring embrace ]]> Share Bear StareIt's been a rough year so far, Internet, what with Twitter's ups and downs, Facebook's family feud, and Microsoft's failed bear-hug acquisition of Yahoo. Now a bunch of grumpy old men are plotting a "bear hug" on Twitter, too. Not a takeover, per se, and more passive-aggressive than hostile. But make no mistake: Steve Gillmor and his gang want to bend the microblogging platform to their will, with their ursine embrace, at Bear Hug Camp, a group grope set for September.

This techie version of a "bear hug" involves deploying powers of annoyance rather than shareholder proxies. "Dave Winer used the bearhug to wrap his arms around Netscape’s version of RSS and not let go until a merged RSS was born," muses an unusually wistful but incomprehensible as always Gillmor. "The time may be here to bearhug Twitter."

Gillmor's immediate goal is to create a standard for identifying every utterance made on the new microblogging services — not just Twitter, but Jaiku, Plurk, and the rest. This will serve to make it easier to cross-reference your own bon mots, self-promotional stunts, and hookup attempts. Never mind the architectural details of Gillmor's mostly-gibberish plan: What he's really trying to do, as Winer did with Netscape, is attempt a credit-nicking takeover of Twitter's best ideas.

He's unlikely to succeed. Bear Hug Camp will certainly be an opportunity for the Old Men of Blogging to stroke each other's egos, and more. But Twitter should remember: It's not a hug Gillmor wants to give them. It's an attention grab that leaves a bad-touch feeling and a permalink in its wake. Better to let Gillmor and his gang beat their man drums in the woods, alone, together.

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Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:20:00 PDT Melissa Gira Grant http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5038889&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Want more traffic? Throw your widgets overboard ]]> "Some blogs, like TechCrunch and Mashable are so loaded with widgets that they take at least 30 seconds to fully render," gripes a post by frequent Valleywag commenter Alan Wilensky. So true! When I was a website producer, I used to plot page load times versus daily pageviews. Load speed affected traffic — and hence revenue and brand reach— far more than I could convince my managers.

The time it takes before the main text and/or images load matter, too, because most readers will start reading the page as soon as there's something to look at, rather than waiting for everything to settle into place. Dave Winer's Scripting News is a living lesson in speed over flash. I hit Dave's site once a day because I know it'll take under 10 seconds to load the page, scroll down it for Valleywag-grade dirt, and then move on to another site. Yet for whatever reason, I've never been able to personally convince anyone to lighten up a heavy front door. Oh, everyone who cares uses RSS now. Tech people have the best excuses for laziness.

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Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:40:00 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5030221&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ SF's dotcom-era mayor now black, white and read all over ]]> Willie Brown, San Francisco's only black mayor (1996-2004) and a fixture in local politics for more than 40 years, has popped up as the Chronicle's latest columnist. Brown's first offering reads like a mix of Herb Caen and Dave Winer — short, first-person musings on current events, ending with a namedrop of Willie's rich neighbors at the St. Regis. It's pro forma to hate on Brown in San Francisco, even though he helped legalize oral sex and badgered President Clinton to leave the city's pot clubs alone. Willie's real crime? He always plays to win, and he usually does. For most politicos, a newspaper column would signal early retirement. In Brown's case, I can't wait to see how he parlays the Chron gig into his next big score. (Photo by AP/Eric Risberg)

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Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:20:00 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5027372&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Calacanis, Scoble, Arrington pawns in FriendFeed's smart marketing campaign ]]> Egobloggers Jason Calacanis, Robert Scoble as well as startup PR clearinghouse Michael Arrington all want to know: How amazing is it that after two years of using Twitter, they've each already got nearly half as many "followers" on FriendFeed after just a few months? Asking the question, each offer hypothetical answers involving the social-network aggregator's ease of use — "The comment systems is so fast and easy that it's perfect," says Calacanis — or Twitter's frequent outages — "Twitter downtime plays a big part," writes Arrington. But here's the real answer to the amazing growth these bloggers have seen on FriendFeed:

It's not that amazing. As CenterNetwork's Allen Stern first pointed out, each time a new user signs up for FriendFeed, the site suggests the new user becomes friends with "Popular FriendFeeders." On the list: Bret Taylor, Fred Wilson, Scott Beale, Michael Arrington, Loic Le Meur, Jason Calacanis, Dave Winer and Leo Laporte — despite, as Stern notes, the fact that many of these "popular" users don't actually use FriendFeed very often. Why? We haven't asked anybody at FriendFeed because the answer is obvious: So that the whole bunch of easily ego-fluffed blog blowhards will blog about how amazing FriendFeed is, without bothering to figure out why, exactly, it seems to be growing so much faster for them than everybody else.

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Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:00:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5022553&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Blogfights: A 100-word history ]]> Nearly ten years before Violet Blue vs. Boing Boing, the Internet's early bloggers discovered their new medium's killer application: Personal spats. Radar Online blogger Choire Sicha, angling for his 14th return to us here at Gawker Media, recounts blogfeuding's past. Choire: tl; dr. Only one era bears recounting: the months after 9/11.

2001 and 2002: With the emergence of "the warbloggers" post-9/11, as they were called, everyone feuded with everyone. Seriously. Everyone! (N.B. that account includes some serious misreading.) It was sheer chaos, a mass freakout that distended psychoanalytic space and time. There were even Denial of Service attacks. Dave Winer, the feudiest of all internetters, took on the world, briefly.

You won't click all those links, so just read the one where Instapundit agrees with Denton.

(Photo via Wonkette)

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Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:20:00 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5021254&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Julia Allison and Dave Winer share love of un-conferences ]]> A reader writes to us concerned that the apocalypse is nigh. Why so scared? Because wantrepreneur Julia Allison (who was not fired from Star magazine) and cranky RSS guru Dave Winer are now link lovers. What sparked this show of mutual affection? Winer's treatise on how he created the first, true "un-conference" back in 2003, where instead of panels, it was a discussion — because "the eloquence and intelligence in the room are distributed not concentrated." This apparently reminded Allison of class discussions at her alma mater, Georgetown, "except this time you care." (Photos by Brian Solis, bub.licio.us and Doc Searls)

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Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:40:00 PDT Jackson West http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5019015&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Comcast considering 250GB monthly cap on downloads ]]> Internet service provider Comcast is considering instituting a 250-gigabyte monthly cap on downloads, according an anonymous source cited by BroadbandReports.com. Users would be allowed one month over the cap in a year. Any month after that, and the customer would be charged $15 for each 10GB in excess. No cap is expected for uploads. Cranky RSS guru Dave Winer, who admits to downloading an astronomical 450GB a month, would end up with a regular $300 surcharge on his Comcast bill.

Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas didn't confirm or deny the plan to BroadbandReports, only saying "Comcast is currently evaluating this service and pricing model." Earlier this week, the company ditched the proposed "P2P bill of rights" it was developing with file sharing startup Pando. (Photo by AP/Paul Sakuma)

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Wed, 07 May 2008 14:20:00 PDT Jackson West http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=388223&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Not even Comcast's Twitter-stalker can placate Dave Winer ]]> comcasttwitsmall.jpgComcast has assigned a customer-service employee to monitor Twitter for the passive-aggressive whines of tech-savvy insiders. A tipster forwards us evidence of the Twitter-stalker in action in the screenshot below. Meanwhile, another sighting of this rare customer-service animal in the wild comes from bilious blogfather Dave Winer, best known for arguing about which obscure Internet technologies he invented. Yesterday he posted a rant about how the Internet service provider abruptly cut him off. (The cause: Software he wrote which inefficiently downloads Flickr photos en masse.) After Winer complained over Twitter, the stalker, a Philadelphia-based customer-service rep named Frank, reached out, but couldn't help. So Winer called Comcast's hotline for Internet miscreants and recorded the call (MP3). During that conversation, a Comcast rep threatened to shut down Winer's connection. "I asked if I could get this in writing," Winer reports. "He said no."

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Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:40:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=381016&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Happy birthday, Julia Allison, we're finding a new man for you ]]> Julia_Allison_Limo.jpgGeek-loving cover girl Julia Allison turns 27 soon and all she wants — other than a MacBook Air and whole long list of stuff — is a boy, "tied with a red bow, like a new car for graduation." Knowing Julia's taste for geeks like Kevin Rose and some guy who used to run some video site, we figured: Who better to help Julia land a new man than Valleywag readers? So help her out and vote in our latest poll.

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Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:30:38 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=358632&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Remind us who we're sleeping with this week? ]]> Every 1's a Winer"It would be easy to put together a scorecard and a list of Web 2.0 luminaries who haven't graced their pages," suggests sexy Internet daddy-type Dave Winer. "We might find out who's sleeping with the editors of Valleywag." Great idea, Dave! You make a chart, we'll run it at full 720-pixel width. Promise. But only if you specify which editor. One of Winer's commenters claims Blognation owner Tristan Louis got a free pass from the 'Wag. But did Louis pay through the nose for Mary Jane Irwin's sweet, sweet GFE embrace, or is Owen Thomas giving him the reacharound for free? Readers care about those little details.

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Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:00:14 PST Melissa Gira Grant http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=355341&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Protoblogger Dave Winer suggests Valleywag ... ]]> Protoblogger Dave Winer suggests Valleywag doesn't write about people its editors sleep with. His readers quickly correct him: "Or could it be that you've slept with the editors, but you're really bad at sex?" Precisely. Who wants to hear about bad sex? [Scripting News]

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Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:32:10 PST Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=354522&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Mitt Romney, my choice for president, "suspended" ... ]]> AP080207021769-2.jpgMitt Romney, my choice for president, "suspended" his campaign today. More disappointing? Dave Winer, who will never, ever let you forget his pioneering role in blogging, will continue to blather on about the election in his Twitter feed for months and months. Dude, we get it. You like Obama.

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Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:30:03 PST Jordan Golson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=353888&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Blogs beat New York Times 4-1 in five-year contest ]]> Five years ago, daddy-blogger Dave Winer bet NYT president Martin Nisenholtz that by 2007, blogs would be more relevant sources than the Times in Google search results for the year's top news stories. (Obligatory brag: The bet was my idea.) The Long Now Foundation has handed down its final decision on the bet. The Times came out ahead on the mortgage crisis. Blogs won on the other four topics — the Iraq war, Virgina Tech's shootings, oil prices, and Chinese exports. But you need to know that the Long Now panel blamed the bet's terms for its lopsided outcome:

Had the bet been structured around commercial vs. noncommercial content, and they had chosen an average ranking system (which actually seems to answer the question being asked more clearly), commercial content would have won by a factor of more than four.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:00:56 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=352308&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Online, lovelorn Dave Winer claimed "athletic build" ]]> Dave WinerThere are lies, damn lies, and personal ads. Dave Winer, a newcomer to The Well, an online community, posted one in 1994 that said he had an "athletic build." I don't have a photo of Winer circa 1994 (anyone?), but this one from 2001 doesn't show much supporting evidence. Winer's ad, courtesy of Upcoming.org founder Andy Baio:

From: Dave Winer (dwiner) Date: 1994-08-17 17:52:00 Conference: singles Topic: Personal Ad experiences


Well, here goes — my first message on The Well. I've just been lurking for the last few days, trying to figure out what's going on. It's pretty daunting, but maybe I'm getting the hang of it... You all seem like VERY nice people.


Photo by Kris Krüg on Flickr

Anyway, I wrote a personal ad last week, and sent it via email to a bunch of friends, most of them women, for their reaction. Here's the ad:

SWM 39, 6'2", athletic build, Bay Area, software entrepreneur turned massage therapist, gentle hands, romantic, emotionally developed, born-again hippie. Loves gardening, road trips, walking, skiing, writing. Looking for a great gal who's ready to create a safe space for love and lots and lots of play. Send email to: mailbox12@aol.com.

One of my friends had a pretty animated response:

"You're going to find a nurse or a chiropractor. Why? The self-description sounds too needy, as if you're looking for succor. Anyway, i never describe you that way to anyone i know. Your description entirely omits your shining INTELLIGENCE — you're a genius; you assimilate new ideas like most people consume their morning cereal. You see shapes when there are only nebulae. You're also kinetic, always soul-searching. grounded and yet ready to leap. You're body's pretty irrelevant, but obviously you want to be of athletic build (for what sport, exactly, would your body be considered athletic? no offense, but REALLY). As long as you've got some hair left and your sexual organs, your body's functioning, or do you really want to be a combination of Yogi Berra and Albert Einstein? — Love, Sylvia"

Of course I liked Sylvia's version of the ad better. ;->

Dave

PS: I'm a great skier. Definitely athletic.

The Sylvia in question? Most likely the sharp-witted, sharp-tongued Sylvia Paull.

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Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:09:46 PST Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=350222&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Blogger calls for Hillary Clinton's death ]]> Death threats get dished out online routinely, and few take them seriously — the Kathy Sierra row of last spring being the notable exception. But Dave Winer, the blog pioneer, may have chosen the wrong target over the weekend. In a Twitter sent while watching Hillary Clinton on TV, he wrote "Kill Hill Kill Hill." Webheads accustomed to Winer's dyspeptic logorrhea may dismiss such talk as the ranting of an addled mind. But the Secret Service, which protects Clinton as both the spouse of a former president and a presidential candidate herself, may view it with more jaundiced eyes. If agents pay Winer a visit, will he Twitter about that, too?

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Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:43:06 PST Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=349733&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Wikipedia wins, I lose big bet on the news ]]> 2002_05.jpgBlogger Rogers Cadenhead doesn't get to declare the official winner of the bet between the Dave Winer and the New York Times. Google — the company, not the search engine — will call a winner, and the Long Now Foundation, which holds the cash in the pot, will decide the issue. I know because I set this all up in 2001, by talking to Google PR chief David Krane before approaching Winer and the Times to arrange a wager on whether blogs or the paper of record would cover the big stories of this year better. The bet ran in Wired's Long Bets issue.

To be honest, I was sure the Times would win. But I'm enjoying Cadenhead's assessment that Wikipedia wins the bet — isn't that the sort of twist any Webhead would want? Cadenhead has exposed the flaw in my genius idea: I presumed there were only two sides. That's journalist math. Any real techie knows there are never only two values to anything in real life. Even the 1's and 0's inside your CPU depend on where you draw the line between a 0 and a 1. Part of what makes the Internet so fascinating is it constantly proves there are potentially infinite outcomes to any story.

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Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:20:38 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=336848&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Dave Winer tweets his way into our hearts ]]> Twitter isn't all Jason Calacanis yelling death to Luddites or Jeremiah Owyang pontificating on his own marketing prowess. Sometimes it's about love. Loooooooooooove. Coooooooool. Like this sweet tweet from blogfather Dave Winer. Want to know what she said?

She's buying!

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Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:52:13 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=335456&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Happy birthday, blogosphere! ]]> Blogfather Jorn BargerTen years ago, on December 17, 1997, Jorn Barger coined the term "web log" for a webpage where an author "logs" the other webpages they find interesting. Since then, blogging has become serious business for some and a place for nonsensical blabber for others. Though Dave Winer frequently claims that he was the first to launch a weblog at Scripting News, it was really just an online archive of columns rejected by HotWired. Jorn Barger had the first true weblog worthy of the name at Robot Wisdom.

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Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:41:41 PST Jordan Golson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=334894&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ News flash: Industry events dull ]]> Marc Canter - Valleywag"The problem with most conferences is we don't have enough to do," laments seminar veteran Dave Winer, who admits to Web surfing, emailing and instant-messaging during presentations. In Las Vegas today, speaker Mike Arrington from TechCrunch forgot to show up. [Update: Arrington says he never agreed to do the event.] Why bother? Instead of onstage pony shows and awkward demo booths, conference sponsors should just set up an open bar. Invite potential clients to come schmooze with a few paid celebs and Marc Canter (zzz at left). Think David Hornik's The Lobby for the rest of us. But first, make sure the Wi-Fi's rock solid.

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Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:38:37 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=321180&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Big blog conference somewhere ]]> bunchofbloggers.jpgThis week, a bunch of bloggers are gathered somewhere to blog about blogs, blogging and bloggers. We forget the location — Vegas? or is it Beijing? — but topics will include blogs and politics, blogs and business, blogs and the media, and how to make some dough at this blog thing. Unless Dave Winer shows up and pisses everyone off by telling the truth again, we'll skip it.

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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:16:30 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=318719&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Gossiping to reporter backfires -- hurray! ]]> techcrunch.gifI'll be sad if Techcrunch editor Michael Arrington ever figures out what all those tedious journalism-school terms like off the record and deep background actually mean. Because I hate the way tech people act as if Arrington and other established writers work for them. They see journalists as outsourced copywriters, under specific orders what and what not to write. Yesterday Arrington blogged, "We got a senior person at MySpace to talk to us about it off record .. . this person confirmed that [MySpace cofounder Tom Anderson] is really '36 or 37' and that MySpace has been trying to keep this quiet." He was promptly chewed out by a member of the Valley's most know-it-all caste: a software engineer.

Anyone talking to media knows that telling a journalist something "off the record" ... clearly means that the comments aren't to be used a primary source. The point of "off the record" is to steer a journalist the right way so they can dig in deeper and get the real story from a real source, on the record.
Anyone knows that. It's another presumptive Valley ritual. Some mid-level Google employee or seedless entrepreneur buttonholes a hapless "journalist" and goads him or her to run a story about some big secret thing because it's their job, right? (Techies add "... right?" to the end of any dubious statement. Watch for it.) "Oh, but you can't quote me. You have to go find someone else to quote, right? Run, little reporter, run!" I swear to God I have one email which actually says that: "Run!"

Here's how it really works: If you don't want your blabbermouth rumor quoted by Michael Arrington, me or anyone else, then shut up. It's that simple. I side with grizzled newspaper critic Dave Winer: "Too much is made of whether someone is a journalist or not." To presume that talking out of turn to a reporter binds the scribe to a different ruleset than anyone else is asking for trouble. Professional pundits like Arrington make the same goofs as anyone, only to much larger audiences. As Winer said about the guy, "You can make a mistake and still have integrity." But a gossip is a gossip.

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Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:25:49 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=314703&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ "When I got a prominent link from a TechCrunch ... ]]> "When I got a prominent link from a TechCrunch piece on September 30, it generated 228 hits." — Scripting News blogger Dave Winer disputes the clout of the latest A-list, Techmeme Leaderboard. (TechCrunch is No. 1 on the list, Winer No. 35.) For context, Winer once counted over 100,000 hits to Scripting News from one of Valleywag writer Paul Boutin's articles for Slate.

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Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:51:55 PDT Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=308694&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ "Just curious why do you lie in your public ... ]]> "Just curious why do you lie in your public posts, yet try to sound so reasonable in emails? Answer is on the record of course." — Blogfather Dave Winer, in a not-very-private email to Valleywag writer Tim Faulkner. Tim's reply: "That's just how I roll, Dave. How do you manage to sound so unreasonable all the time, in every conceivable medium?"

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Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:02:33 PDT Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=289963&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Crusty old Web wanker Dave Winer cybersquats on rival ]]> Don't mess with Dave WinerUpdate below. Arguing with a child will just leave everyone frustrated, but some people never learn. If you thought blogfather Dave Winer's recent spat with blowhard Jason Calacanis was childish, you don't know the depths of the man's juvenility. In January, he argued with commenter Nick Irelan on his blog, Scripting News, about the origins of RSS, blogging, and podcasts. But unlike most Winer spats, the Internet manchild's typically disproportionate response could actually land him in legal trouble.


When Irelan persisted — acting like a child himself by trying, unsuccessfully, to delete and edit Winer's Wikipedia entry — Winer retaliated by cybersquatting on the domain name NickIrelan.com. This could be a real problem for the inventor of RSS — it's not only childish, it's potentially illegal. If Dave were a mensch, he'd apologize and let go of the domain name.

Update: Dave Winer has informed me that he has released the domain name nickirelan.com. He also suggest that he registered the domain name nickirelan.com within 24 hours of arguing with Nick Irelan "for no particular reason."

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Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:05:10 PDT Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=289885&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Calacanis and Winer need to learn the art of the heckle ]]> lcslogo250.jpgGnomedex, the Chris Pirillo-organized geekathon that took place over the weekend, claims to "unlock the attendee's spirit." Instead, the highlight of the event was the opening of a giant can of whoopass. Relentless self-promoter Jason Calacanis and blather-prone blogfather Dave Winer locked horns, and it wasn't pretty. Calacanis's presentation, unsuprisingly, was an infomercial for his latest venture, the human-powered search engine Mahalo. A few attendees started to heckle Calacanis, and Winer jumped in with the proclamation, "You're spamming us!" The presentation continued but led to a one-on-one berating, a weekend blogfight, the dissolution of a "friendship", and Winer withdrawing from Calacanis's TechCrunch20 startup conference. Winer's offended by Calacanis's self-promotion, Calacanis by Winer's lack of manners; but what really cheeses me off is their rank amateurism when it comes to heckling.


Both Calacanis and Winer need to stop taking themselves so seriously — hah! — and pop their self-created bubbles. The best way to do this? Turn on the boob tube and take a lesson from "Last Comic Standing."

In the reality show, which aims to select the best up-and-coming comedian, competitors must hone their chops by heckling one another. They also have to show they can handle being heckled. The hecklers, knowing who they'll face going into the competition, come prepared. They take notes on their opponents. The heckled are at a disadvantage, but if they are on their game, they can turn a heckle into a bigger laugh for themselves and come away the winner. The comedian usually leave the stage amused and stronger from the abuse.

Now, back to our pair of blowhards: Was Winer actually surprised by Calacanis's presentation? Has he been asleep for the past decade? When has Calacanis not promoted himself and his latest company? If that's so offensive, why were Winer and Calacanis ever "friends" in the first place?

Of course, Winer was certainly stirring the pot, trying to drum up attention for himself. But "You're spamming us!"? That's the best heckle he can come up with? Do your homework, Dave. Calacanis is a treasure trove of heckle material. You can do better.

And Calacanis? Calacanis will frequently indulge in a blogging feud with copious non sequiturs and ad hominem attacks, but in this case, he couldn't come up with a humorous rejoinder to keep his presentation moving and show he can take criticism. Disappointing. The man who successfully talked the Valley's top VCs into investing millions to start an also-ran search engine, can't extemporaneously respond to a lame comment from the back of the room. It's not as if Winer doesn't come loaded with plenty of his own ammunition.

This blogfight, sadly, has devolved into an all-too-serious bitchfest. Calacanis and Winer both could have shown that they are aware of their personal foibles and willing to address them. Instead, they showed they cannot function without their tactical crutches— Winer, the conference-panel ambush and blog retort; Calacanis, Twitter hysteria. The art of the heckle is lost on these two oversensitive blowhards.

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Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:27:15 PDT Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=288943&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Says blogfather Dave Winer: "The iPhone is ... ]]> Says blogfather Dave Winer: "The iPhone is a great example, but it'll be a short-lived product, I think, kind of like the Apple III or the Newton." Or, say, every business venture Winer has ever touched. [Scripting.com]

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Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:25:59 PDT Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=285916&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Web 3.0 is like a group hug ]]> DaveWiner.jpgTIM FAULKNER — Dave Winer, web technology pioneer and prognosticator, is sharing his vision of Web 3.0, the buzzword that was cliché before it was even coined. Unfortunately but perhaps unsurprisingly, his prediction, or rather his aspiration, has little to do with the evolution of web applications or modes of expression; instead it amounts to a detente to the self-made feud between professional journalists and the blogosphere.

Imho, the next step after that, I hope, is the professional media fully embracing the new media, no longer see it as a threat to their continued employment. See amateur public writing, the former audience who is no longer silent, as sources who can get attention for their ideas without going through an intermediary.

While there is real disdain from a vocal minority from each camp towards the other, there is already cross-pollination and blending between the professional and amateur, and this "embracing" continues to grow. Online newspapers are embracing comments, using blogs as sources, recruiting blogger talent. Blogs have developed sources, formed larger networks with paid writers and higher standards. Moreover, all media has always formed a spectrum of the amateur to the professional; homogenization occurs in the middle but isn't desirable for an entire community of creators.

Of course, there is a real debate about the standards and methods of creating content, real threats to old media, and real concerns with the blogosphere. However, misapplying trite valleyspeak to that debate does nothing to advance the old media's appreciation of the new. It merely adds to the disdain... even from the blog side of the spectrum.

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Thu, 24 May 2007 09:10:06 PDT Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=263280&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ 10 Most Embarrassing Geek Photos ]]> gates-dreamy-thumb.jpgNICK DOUGLAS — Underneath all that decorum and collared polyester, geeks have crazy personalities waiting to bust out. Normally they have to suppress those personalities to appease investors and look like Real Important Bosses. But when they find their time to shine, they pull poses that would make Star Wars Kid proud. Here are the top ten photos some geeks wish time forgot. (Warning: some shots are a touch NSFW.)

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He's so...what's a word that's almost but not exactly the opposite of dreamy? Actually, there's some hipster charm to that tousled-haired boy genius known as Bill Gates. What do you think is going through his mind as he gazes at the camera with bedroom eyes?

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I won't pretend that venture capitalist Steve Jurvetson, who invested in Hotmail, Skype and other companies after working at HP and Apple, is chagrined by a photo that he uploaded himself. Even if he looks like Star Trek ensign Wesley Crusher on summer vacation.

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Before Sergey Brin founded Google, apparently he was one of those sitcom characters who dresses in drag for an episode, leading to a wacky adventure in which some burly guy thinks he's a hot woman. As well as that dress fits, Sergey is no Bugs Bunny.

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Even exhibitionist tech pundit and former Tech TV star Chris Pirillo eventually got embarrassed over this shot of him baring it all in Alaska. At least he has the best ever argument for shrinkage.

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Philip Kaplan of FuckedCompany, however, has no such shame. That's why, if Marshall McLuhan is the patron saint of Wired, "Pud" is the patron saint of Valleywag. The man who danced around the ashes of the dot-com crash waltzed around with two girls in a live webcam stream. Try sticking that on YouTube.

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You can tell Michael Arrington is not sure what he's doing in this photo with marketer Tara Hunt, but even after he learned, the TechCrunch blog founder pulled the shocker back out months later.


Why are 37signals founder Jason Fried and the founders of San Francisco web-dev house Adaptive Path so embarrassed by this bathtub shot by Maggie Mason? It reveals them for the sexy city slickers they are. Besides, in San Fran, just be thankful they were wearing their swim trunks (though for all we know, Jason could skinny-dip in the tub).

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Microsoft staff, 1978. Bill Gates is actually proud enough of this photo to keep it on his corporate biography page.

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I can understand the topless photo of bloggers Robert Scoble and Shel Israel: they were pulling a stunt for their book Naked Conversations (back when Scoble spent more time getting naked and less time being a dick). But the naked-with-laptop shot? Dude, maybe it would have worked if you didn't flop your tits over the screen.

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I've always felt that RSS guru Dave Winer had some latent cause for all the aggression that makes him abuse so many people. What could that possibly be? He looks happy here in this sauna full of naked young men. Aha, obviously there's Dave's hidden passion: he's a closet lover of hot...sweaty...climates. That dirty Californian rainforest-botherer.


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Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:02:32 PST Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=233278&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ SVUG #12: What blogs should I pretend to read? ]]> Screw Crop4-2Pauljun06Full-1PAUL BOUTIN — Skip the year-end recaps and next week's inevitable Predictions for 2007. Instead, bone up on these four tech/biz insiders whose blogs you don't read, but should say you do. All four are way more successful than you. Each posts faster than you can read. SVUG's party trick: Read 'em today, then trust they'll keep blogging the same topics through March.

Don't be fooled by these guys' low-flying Alexa charts. Anyone who's anybody in the Valley reads them — or pretends to. So should you.

vw_cuban.jpgMark Cuban, Blog Maverick


  • Day job: Owner, Dallas Mavericks basketball team.

  • Claim to fame: Web 1.0 billionaire from now-forgotten Broadcast.com.

  • Blogs incessantly about: The Internet biz, NBA inside basketball, lying-sack-of-shit reporters.

  • Best-known post: "I still think Google is crazy."

  • Fail-safe banter about Cuban: "If all reporters are liars, why doesn't he just stop talking to them?"

vw_anderson.jpgChris Anderson, The Long Tail


  • Day job: Editor in Chief, Wired magazine.

  • Claim to fame: Author of The Long Tail, which posits that because of digital distribution, there's more money to be made selling an infinite number of non-hits than a handful of megahits.

  • Blogs incessantly about: Because of digital distribution, there's more money to be made from, say, photofinishing an infinite number of ...

  • Best-known post: "What would radical transparency mean" for his own magazine?

  • Fail-safe banter about Anderson: "He's brilliant, but just once I'd like to see him go nuts on somebody."

vw_wilson.jpgFred Wilson, A VC


  • Day job: Partner in Union Square Ventures, investor in del.icio.us and Feedburner.

  • Claim to fame: Made a killing on dot-coms. His house is worth more than your company.

  • Blogs incessantly about: The quotidian concerns of a wildly successful investor.

  • Best-known post: "Is the traditonal Venture Capital model broken?"

  • Fail-safe banter about Wilson: "I'm convinced he's mocking us, 'Here's how to get as rich as me, but you'll never pull it off.'"

vw_winer.jpgDave Winer, Scripting News


  • Day job: Scripting News.

  • Claim to fame: Unofficial alpha noodge for Web standards including RSS, podcasting, stuff we forgot.

  • Blogs incessantly about: How he never gets enough credit.

  • Best-known post: September 11, 2001 when his site didn't crash along with the entire mainstream media.

  • Fail-safe banter about Winer: "I can't stand him. Especially when he's right."

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Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:30:16 PST Paul Boutin http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=223755&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ The nine most surprisingly great business moves of 2006 ]]> NICK DOUGLAS — Good deals are obvious. Great deals are not. News Corp's $580-million purchase of MySpace was "Murdoch's Folly" no more when Google paid $900 million to power MySpace search. In that spirit, here are the top nine business moves from 2006 that don't make sense — at first. Below, the video that started Deal #1.

  1. Amanda and Andrew go ballistic: "I apparently have been unboomed," said Amanda Congdon, host of Rocketboom, outing a behind-the-scenes feud with her producer Andrew Baron (video below). Critics (including me) thought the whole ordeal, with both Amanda and Drew slinging accusations and legal threats over the show's ownership, made these Internet stars a laughingstock. But at least it bought them some publicity while Baron found a more experienced host (who quickly won converts) and Amanda chatted with media companies and landed at ABC.
  2. Google buys YouTube: 1. Start site for cool legit reason. 2. Let a bunch of people use it to post Family Guy clips. 3. Pants dangerously close to being sued off. 4. Hop on Google's white horse, cut deals with those who almost sued you, hint at paying users in the future. Profit!
  3. HP promotes Mark Hurd: Hewlett-Packard tapped the CEO as chairman, replacing Patricia Dunn, dumped for her involvement in a spying scandal. Hurd quickly forgot all he'd learned before that point.
  4. Dave Winer quits blogging: Enemies cheered the promise that technologist and RSS innovator Dave Winer would stop blogging at Scripting News. But so did friends, who knew that if Winer stepped back from his constant updates and the fights they sometimes bring, he'd finally be able to return to the important work of — sorry, wait, he's staying until April. Turns out he does this all the time. And maybe that's clever, since it always fools those of us who haven't spent the last ten years reading this Armchair Everything.
  5. Mike Arrington throws a party: The TechCrunch founder threw parties before, but this year they finally broke the capacity of his ranch house. Arrington says he pulled in over $50k from TechCrunch 7, a long schmooze held at the offices of investment firm August Capital. Good thing his parties are so profitable, because that blogging thing ain't working out.
  6. Jason Calacanis ruins Netscape: AOL put the cocky Weblogs, Inc. founder in charge of its dying Netscape.com portal. No one's been able to keep the site's traffic from falling. Neither has Calacanis, say outside reports (which he and employee C.K. Sample dispute), but that's not what matters. Calacanis turned Netscape into a clone of social news site Digg and paid top users with AOL's money, thus turning a failure into a high-profile failure (did anyone know Netscape.com was even still up?). The gig kept Jason on the radar long enough to let him prepare his next project — outside AOL.
  7. Craigslist stays poor: "Poor" here means "raking in millions." Craigslist's founder and CEO have said (again and again and again and again) that they're not selling the company or milking the site for ad dollars. Instead they'll pull in mere tens of millions for their 22-person operation. After all, the billionaire life is for the fake humble, not the truly humble.
  8. Yahoo keeps Terry Semel: The CEO looked so close to retirement that when Valleywag heard the company was announcing something big, our publisher posted an obit for Semel's career. Too soon, it turns out, as Semel is still in charge of the newly reorganized Yahoo. Or at least he'll stick around until the changes are made. It's a lot smarter than putting a new CEO (read: CFO Susan Decker) in charge while the company's still on shaky footing; by the time Decker rises to the top, the exec team (including Decker, who will oversee one of the company's three divisions) will have sorted things out.
  9. Apple doesn't reinvent the iPod: Every time Steve Jobs stands in front of more than five people at a time, he's expected to finally introduce the iPhone or the full-screen iPod. The time may come for those products, but this year the iPod only gained a few gigs, went micro on the low end, and dropped the glassy look — nothing that renders a pod from January obsolete. Why wait? To give Microsoft's Zune some time to wallow before crushing sales with a new player early next year.
This is an installment of Diggbait, a daily column of lists, stunts, and general comic relief by Nick Douglas, who also writes at Eat the Press. Earlier Diggbaits list ten badass bots and the eight people you meet on Digg. ]]>
Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:16:49 PST Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=221746&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Loose wires: Digg your own grave ]]>
  • A must-read on Workspace Design for computer programmers. [Joel on Software]
  • All the talk of a democracy/meritocracy balance on Digg, including this high school test essay masquerading as a TechCrunch post, is a load of overblown media hype. Just letting you know. [TechCrunch]
  • CNET, the business blog that brought you the infamous HP business-secrets story that launched a legal investigation, gets us caught up on the ensuing chaos with a nifty timeline. Fold-out optional. [CNET]
  • When feisty AOL exec Jason Calacanis tells Dave Winer and Tim O'Reilly to make love, not war, the show is over. [Jason Calacanis]
  • Old AOL Cancel Script: Six whole steps buys you an extended psychological attack. New guidelines: you will be accompanied by a ROFLMAO along the way to a BFF 4EVR. [Consumerist]
  • — Beth Gottfried

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    Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:48:12 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=199364&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ Blogger breakdown: Spot Scoble at Google ]]> google-visit.jpg
    • Ex-Microsoft blogger Robert Scoble may miss out on Burning Man, but he'll have fun visiting the Googleplex today with Googler Matt Cutts. Insert cruel "don't empty the snack room" line here, and send phonecam pics of Scoble to tips@valleywag.com. [Matt Cutts, photo by ~C4Chaos]
    • Jason Calacanis tells everyone in the Internet industry, blog or die. Somewhere, Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz is pumping his fist and shouting "Yessss!" [Calacanis.com]
    • RSS pioneer Dave Winer says an army of unnamed people are pissed at publisher Tim O'Reilly. (And it's totally not Winer's bitter recrimination for not getting an invite to last weekend's exclusive "Friends of O'Reilly" Camp, nor the two men's ongoing battle since 2000.) [Scripting.com]

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    Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:18:04 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=197977&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ Dave Winer trades up ]]> Blogger Dave Winer was long known as an irritant — he's got some strong opinions, and he's managed to offend quite a lot of individuals. Now, his awkward phrasing might help him trade up to offending whole people groups at once. From Dave's blog:

    Probably because it's a user conference and because Seattle is so close to British Columbia, this year there were lots of Canadians at Gnomedex. They're different from us, but you can't tell from looking at them, because they look exactly like us, unlike black people who usually have darker skin.

    It's like hearing Mormons talk in front of non-religious friends — you're not quite offended, but you think maybe it'd be best if they stopped saying words.

    Inspiration from new places [Scripting News]

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    Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:20:00 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=194204&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ Best Weekend Ever: Segway to commercial ]]> Old PC - ValleywagOver the weekend, while you shivered in the wind at the beach, life went on for the tech world:

    • Segway (founded by Dean Kamen, funded by VC John Doerr, patronized by Segway polo player Steve Wozniak) announced two new vehicles: a street model and all-terrain model of the next generation of the Segway Scooter. They'll build villages and hamlets around them, respectively! [NYT]
    • Microsoft launched a desktop-run blog-writing tool, which like every piece of software was invented by Dave Winer years ago. [Windows Live; Winer's blog]
    • The PC turned 25 years old, spurring PC World to live in the past with another damn "history of __" story. [PC World]
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    Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:00:00 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=193928&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ What bloggers did this weekend: No sex for you ]]> Dave Winer, everyone - Valleywag
    • Pictured: Blog cartoonist Hugh Macleod, somehow able to make fun of all his colleagues deftly enough that they link to him when he does it, this time mocked blogger Dave Winer for gushing about the "chicks" at the recent BlogHer conference. [Gaping Void]
    • Bloggers didn't get laid at WordCamp, the conference for users of the WordPress blogging platform, but they did a good job pretending so. [Blog Herald]
    • Nerds everywhere geared up to cream their pants today at Steve Jobs's keynote for Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. [Technorati]
    • The juvenilely-named CalacANUS.com wrapped up the story so far for "Kevin Rose and Digg vs. Jason Calacanis and Netscape." [Calacanus.com]

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    Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:00:00 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=192404&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ Dave Winer and the ladies of BlogHer ]]> jerry-garcia.jpgToday, superstar blogger Dave Winer is writing from BlogHer, an all-girl blog conference. "Everyone's been very nice, lots of kissing and hugging," writes Dave, before posting a video.

    Wow. Way to go, Dave! He's like Jerry Garcia at the Lilith Fair.

    Dave Winer's blog for July 28 [Scripting News]

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    Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:24:38 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=190614&view=rss&microfeed=true
    <![CDATA[ Waste it or taste it ]]> Speaking of Wired Magazine's Wired/Tired/Expired (née Wired/Tired) feature, it's time for another ripoff of that cultural hot-or-not. Today, let's call this feature "waste it or taste it."

    Waste it Taste it
    Lycos paying Wired News writers 50 cents per word Condé Nast paying Wired News writers 50 cents per word
    The Long Tail The 1% Rule
    YouTube videos Revver videos
    Begging TechCrunch for a product review Begging TechCrunch for a party invite
    Dave Winer promises to quit his blog Steve Gillmor actually quits his blog
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    Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:46:27 PDT Nick Douglas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=189545&view=rss&microfeed=true